Rate GIJoe: Resolute!

[M6D]

I've watched it twice now, once in the five minute spans during the week and then I dl'ed it and watched it on the big screen yesterday. It was definitely a decent cartoon. I would have preferred the animation style like we got during the opening of the GIJoe movie. I don't think you can beat that. This was good though, especially the way they handled modernizing the character designs. As far as the storyline goes though it hangs right there with anything Sunbow put out. Sure it's a little darker and has some (useless) deaths added in, but it's really nothing we haven't seen before. My biggest beef was with the characters. While the designs were top notch the characters themselves were hit or miss. Gung Ho and Wild Bill were two of my favorite updates, Duke was no different than Cobra Commander though. He seemed less concerned with saving the world and more concerned with a vendetta against Cobra Commnader, at whatever cost. The Cobra characters also came off weak imo. They were just there to be there, with out any real rhyme or reason. It would have been nice to see the GIJoe team attacking Springfield at the end of the show instead of just the four characters, but if time and budget is what they're saying then who am I to argue. I just wish Hasbro would realize they don't have to cater to the "Hisstank I want to see a headshot kill in a GIJoe cartoon" crowd. Spend a little more time on developing the characters instead of killing them off for no apparent reason. I hope this little oneshot is enough to spawn a new series and if not I hope we do see the remaining figures on the toy shelf even if it turns out to be a four pack of characters with the DVD.

[kingofpain26]

Taken on it's own, it's not hard for a grown and cynical adult to pick apart, but then, the same holds true for nearly any comic/cartoon in the modern market.

Comparatively to all past/present Joe device, it's the best we've seen yet.

completely and totally agree with this statement!!

Specific proof: My son has asked me repeatedly to watch this, and he likes it much more than the Original Miniseries I showed him.

so while the adults may nitpick it. the younger kids love it!

[Keyser]

Have not seen the final one yet (avoids the discussion thread) but I have really liked the series.

Grew up on the cartoon/toys/comics like most of us here. I really dont have alot of negative things to say about it. Story was pretty good, animation was great. Really nice to see a childhood fav done right.

Like anything, a few things could have been done better but gave it 5 just on the fact I think Resolute will be better than the movie .

Peace out!

[Red Sox]

Definitely a solid 4. Sure I've got a few nitpicks but overall it was pretty kick @$$.

There was a little too much Snake Eyes nonsense for my tastes (taking out Springfield's troops and tanks by himself with a sword ), but I guess that is to be expected unfortunately. It felt a little rushed in spots but it was great for what it was. The quick deaths of a lot of characters felt very Devils Due-ish. I'm ok with knocking some guys off but there seemed to be some unneeded killing going on (Zartan and Bazooka for example). What's the obsession with making Dial-Tone a woman lately. She should have been a new character or Firewall or something IMHO.

The voice cast was small but I think pretty much all of the voices were very well done. The style was pretty good too, a little anime but still decently realistic. The action scenes were awesome too. I loved that Cobra's hail of bullets were shaded blue and the Joes were shaded red. Nice classic nod there.

I wish it was longer. I would love to see some prequels done and a little more time given to the Resolute universe to flesh out the story and characters some more.

[pbarny]

The good: On the non-SE/SS episodes, the time devoted revealed enough and kept it moving. Added realism because there finally were casualties. The central plot of Cobra superweapon that wipes out cities was plausible in the mythos and a good idea overall.

The indifferent: The animation and over all voicing. It neither made it any extra special or detracted signficantly. The Baroness and Destro didn't have to be the ones taking the hostages at the research facility. It could've been anyone.

The bad: This bugs me the most, what was the point of blowing up the FLAGG (which goes to SE/SS later)? If the goal was to paralyze the reliance on satellite communications didn't that effectively cripple Joe efforts so the Flagg was just back up? Or was it just to get the line "Cobra always understimates us" line in? Next was having 2 full episodes (and part of another in a Zartan flashback), way too much time on SE/SS given they had absolutely nothing really to do with the central plot line. That pulled them away, only to use the terrible cliche of SE is the only one who can save the Joes who've done fine without him so far. Add to it the other terrible cliche of went back but didn't have a body for the bad guy at the end: unimaginative.

Up until the ending, I was going to give this a B-/C+ type grade which means that it did the job in a satisfactory and perfectly average manner. The ending however sunk it like a rock to D which means it only gets credit for doing the work, passing along to the next thing, but made a marginal effort not to fail. (You get an A for doing outstanding work that is original and innovative, B is innovative but not quite outstanding, C is perfectly average there are strengths and weakness, D is very weak but did do the job, F is complete and utter failure).

[Drunkun Viper]

A solid 4 stars for me also. I thought the classic charcters had a very modern look and feel to them. (Wild Bill was my fav.) I really liked the animation compared to Sunbow's now dated stuff. The sounds of bullets being fired and bouncing of everywhere was a relief to have. (no more laser pistols!) Snake Eyes was a little over the top, but really I can never get enough of him doin his thing. All this was positive. The negitives, Zartan getting shot in the back? He is too good for that. Cobra troops could not hit water if they fell out of a boat. Makes it way to easy for the good guys. Still though, give me more Resolute!

[kawboy]

I would have given it a 4.5 but that's not there. The best storyline ever is in the comics or in my mind.

I heard an interview with a person working on the new G.I. Joe comic at IDW and Dial Tone became a woman because Hasbro wouldn't let them create a new character so they used a name already out there in Joe land.

Personally I loved the ninja stuff, though it did take up too much time and didn't have much to do with the rest of the story. I didn't like Stormy dieing either, but Snake Eyes totally rocks.

I was really diggin it until Duke and Scarlett were surviving missle blasts and winning against multiple Cobras at almost point blank range. Also the toothless tiger for the Cobras was a little boring.

Overall-Totally Sweet. We have a new cartoon and new toys. I could see a prequal cartoon where nobody is dead yet and they have time to give the characters a little more depth. Would be way better than any other Saturday morning cartoon out there. Oh, wait this is not PC for kids. They have to show them playing card games with demons and monsters on them where nobody really gets hurt only the game pieces. And heaven forbid they get kids playing war. Would it be any more violent than Power Rangers? Or show it at night so we can record it and play it the next day for our kids.

[SNAKE_EYES1975]

Having a 80's type GIJOE toon or Movie without ninja stuff would be ridiculous.
I see so much of that "without the ninja stuff it would be great" So do you want to just eliminate Storm Shadow? is he Too "ninja" for ya?

Anyway you put it, Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow have been doing things that Superheros like superman and flash and all the others have been doing. Instead of Radioactive spiders, or other planets, The backstory is simply "they're Ninjas" and it works, especially with the RICH backstory Hama created with the Nam vets.

Like it or not, The Ninja parts are necessary to GIJOE. Will you say the same things in the flashback scenes in the Movie?!?! we'll have to wait and see, because they are much..MUCH worse than this was. I liked the take, and I dont think it was Ninja overload. Killing a HISS with a sword? THATS kinda dumb...Ill just say a chopper hit those HISS tanks..

[Nomad]

Nothing beats Storm Shadow slicing a tank with Excalibur.

[pbarny]

Having a 80's type GIJOE toon or Movie without ninja stuff would be ridiculous.
I see so much of that "without the ninja stuff it would be great" So do you want to just eliminate Storm Shadow? is he Too "ninja" for ya?

Anyway you put it, Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow have been doing things that Superheros like superman and flash and all the others have been doing. Instead of Radioactive spiders, or other planets, The backstory is simply "they're Ninjas" and it works, especially with the RICH backstory Hama created with the Nam vets.

Like it or not, The Ninja parts are necessary to GIJOE. Will you say the same things in the flashback scenes in the Movie?!?! we'll have to wait and see, because they are much..MUCH worse than this was. I liked the take, and I dont think it was Ninja overload. Killing a HISS with a sword? THATS kinda dumb...Ill just say a chopper hit those HISS tanks..

Necessary, yes, but totally pointless in the overall storyline in this case. I understand Hasbro wanting to push their view of who is and isn't a major force in G.I. Joe, however it didn't do anything to advance the story with finite amounts of time allotted. What did any of their fight have to do with stopping the satelite distrubance or particle weapon? NOTHING. Now, if you say, put Stormshadow as the last line of defense to the computer control room in either Siberia or Springfield, move their fight to that location it means something.

Since this has nothing to do with Resolute, Hasbro/Hama made the Ninjas to the chagrin of the 12" history. If Hasbro was serious about making it truely anti-terrorist/counter insurgency, than drop the ninjas. Not too many of those terrorizing the "modern" or slightly futuristic world.

[Tombstone]

I agree with pbarny 100%. Its not like they couldn't figure out some reason for STorm Shadow fighting Snake Eyes. Just have Storm Shadow say, "This is CObra's final action, and I wanted to kill you personally!" Boom. Sold.

I also agree with Snake_Eyes1975 100%. Ninjas have had a solid standing in the Joeverse for decades. The important thing to remeber is that G.I. Joe is part military action, part futuristic science fiction, and part kung fu fantasy. Something for everyone!

[Dusty Ayers]

I agree with pbarny 100%. Its not like they couldn't figure out some reason for STorm Shadow fighting Snake Eyes. Just have Storm Shadow say, "This is CObra's final action, and I wanted to kill you personally!" Boom. Sold.

I also agree with Snake_Eyes1975 100%. Ninjas have had a solid standing in the Joeverse for decades. The important thing to remeber is that G.I. Joe is part military action, part futuristic science fiction, and part kung fu fantasy. Something for everyone!

Well put. I may not be a ninja fan but it has to be there. Too much and I lose interest. One of the main reasons I stopped collecting joes and joe comics was when they came out with the "starring ninja force" tagline. G.I. Joe is a fantastic property that blends enough realism in with ninja's and lasers and actually pulls it off enough to satisfy the the sci-fi dudes and the realists. I don't know of any other property that has ever remotely done it as well as Joe. Like I said, I am not a huge fan of ninja's but I also don't want "24" with people named Duke and Scarlett instead of Jack Bauer.

[Tombstone]

I was actually going to make a comment about G.I. Joe without ninjas and robots being 24.

Jack Bauer is like Snake Eyes and Duke fused into one. So there you go, G.I. Joe - Ninjas = 24. In fact, I think I'm going to pop a DVD of ninjaless G.I. Joe right now. Thats an awesome show.

[Nekoman]

I gave it a 4.

I really liked some of the characters. Duke, Dialtone and Tunnelrat were all very interesting. I believe I like the new Dialtone better than the old one even.

The voice acting was very good, although there was not many voices themselves, the acting was good.

The story was fun too. Wasn't big on the Snake Eyes part, but the way it had everyone doing something kept it from getting boring.

However, there were problems. The animation was pretty crappy, not as bad as some things I've seen, but it didn't seem to have a decent budget at all. Notably the parts where Zartan appears it got choppy.

Storm Shadow was annoying and made of fail. Good thing they killed him. Destro and the Baroness weren't bad characters, but didn't do much either.

Cobra was still pretty pathetic. I somehow thought they would be more of a threat.

The ending's pacing was poor and was anticlimactic.

Cool for what it was, but not without problems IMHO.

[Mongoose]

A solid 4 from me.

I could go with less ninja stuff....well more of reworking it. I didn't care for that orgin story for SE and SS. Better treatment of COBRA would have been good too. I loved Zartan, but to shoot him in the back? What's up with that? CC rocked though.

I did like the Joe characters, but would've preferred to see others highlighted more. But that's just my personal quirks.

The animation was great, and so were the sound effects.

Hmm... everyone seems to agree on the ending, so just lump me in there.

Yep... favorite part is still the clink off of Destro's mask.

I could go on, but really don't want too. Overall, I reallly liked it and plan on watching it several times.