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Postby yathinkimdaddy » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:54 pm

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WOW!!!! 3.75" dc infinite heroes!!!!! i cant believe it!!!! dreams really do come true. i have literally waited my whole life for 3.75" dc superheroes. now i can have a dio-adventure with han solo, indiana jones, beachhead, and green lantern -- in the same scale!!!! i think im gonna have a coronary (i'll probably go bankrupt, too, with joe, indy, and the dc stuff.). w friggin ow!
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Re: 3.75" DC Universe Infinite Heroes

Postby Smokescreen » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:28 am

I agree, sir.

Although they don't have him here, with Batman done, you'd think the Joker is in the works at some point. I can't wait to have the Joker pestering both Cobra and Joe.

Hell, I'm even planning on minor troop building of some of the cops and Luthor's goons.

SO many of these will find a home in my Joe stories... Man, I can't wait. When do these hit shelves?

If you liked the DTC molds, by the way, you'll have to tack on a couple of Incredible Hulk products, as they use DTC figures for the soldiers.
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Re: 3.75" DC Universe Infinite Heroes

Postby Jmacq1 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:58 am

Most of the figures shown at Toy Fair were apparently "Mock ups."

But still, looks awesome.

And now I REALLY hope the rumors of a 3.75" Marvel Universe series are true. Funny that Mattel/DC seems to have trumped them on it.
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Re: 3.75" DC Universe Infinite Heroes

Postby AdrienVeidt » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:37 am

Blegh, all these figs look like completely inferior shiat. Half the figs will barely be useable for head and gear fodder. I guess it's back to waiting another decade for Mattel to lose the license so some company with talent can give this a try.
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Re: 3.75" DC Universe Infinite Heroes

Postby Jmacq1 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:17 am

AdrienVeidt wrote:Blegh, all these figs look like completely inferior shiat. Half the figs will barely be useable for head and gear fodder. I guess it's back to waiting another decade for Mattel to lose the license so some company with talent can give this a try.


Are there any American-made toys that you actually like? I don't think I've ever heard you say a good thing about...anything.

I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is "No." At least you have the talent, time, and commitment to make your own toys when you're not satisfied with what's offered at retail. Some of us aren't that lucky and have to take what we can get.
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Re: 3.75" DC Universe Infinite Heroes

Postby Alexx » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:47 am

Well, if the outwardly moving shoulders are standard amongst them all, then I'm in! I can't stand it when the arms don't move out. Kinda wish the legs did too, but in terms of playability, it's all I really need. Not to mention that they are perfect for kids! Collectable and sturdy. I just hope they all have an articulation standard. I know most are mock-ups, but some of the girls have strange articulation that looks finished (that red and black bat-woman, for instance). As long as they don't put any of that useless JLU figure articulation in there, i'm happy (meaning, not one figure that has no knee or elbow joints or females with those useless cut hips that don't do anything).
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Re: 3.75" DC Universe Infinite Heroes

Postby Smokescreen » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:04 am

I seriously can't complain about them (namely because I can't compare/contrast them to Joe figs...yet). I agree with Alexx... I hope the ladies don't have screwy hips. I would like my characters to move. I just can't get over how excited I am over the thought of putting Comissioner Gordon in with my Joes... I've got a dio-story just brewing because of that!!
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Re: 3.75" DC Universe Infinite Heroes

Postby General Hawk » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:08 am

Why is it so hard for major companies to give us 3 3/4" figures with decent articulation and construction? Hasbro can do it, Takara can do it, heck, a handful of overseas companies can do it...but Toy Biz and Mattel just cannot. The Superhero Showdown stuff had great articulation, but fell apart when you looked at them, and these DC Heroes just look like blocks of useless plastic.

Ball joint shoulders - Awesome!

T-Crotch articulation and huge hands - Teh sux0rz.

It's funny that if Joe figures were released like this, there would be widespread mayhem and destruction...but folks seem to love the DC figures and Indy figures that have similar articulation restrictions... :shifty:

Anyway...I would love decently articulated 1:18 DC figures, but guess I'll keep waiting.

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Re: 3.75" DC Universe Infinite Heroes

Postby Smokescreen » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:20 am

General Hawk wrote:Why is it so hard for major companies to give us 3 3/4" figures with decent articulation and construction? Hasbro can do it, Takara can do it, heck, a handful of overseas companies can do it...but Toy Biz and Mattel just cannot. The Superhero Showdown stuff had great articulation, but fell apart when you looked at them, and these DC Heroes just look like blocks of useless plastic.

Ball joint shoulders - Awesome!

T-Crotch articulation and huge hands - Teh sux0rz.

It's funny that if Joe figures were released like this, there would be widespread mayhem and destruction...but folks seem to love the DC figures and Indy figures that have similar articulation restrictions... :shifty:

Anyway...I would love decently articulated 1:18 DC figures, but guess I'll keep waiting.

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THAT'S the problem?? T-Crotches? Seriously? There's this other small toy line that uses them...I think they're...what... Star Wars or something like that? Ya... I think they've had a little success through the years... :P

Yeah, it sucks compared to the crotches Joe figures have. Don't get me wrong. And Joe fans already threw their fits about T-Crotches and had that remedied. But, I do think these DC figures are a hell of a starting block... Decent sculpts, great concepts... Hopefully they can perfect the lower regions in future waves. Everything else looks damn good, imo.

Justin, were you there? Can you confirm that they can mesh with either RAH, new sculpt, or 25A Joe figures?
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Re: 3.75" DC Universe Infinite Heroes

Postby General Hawk » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:31 am

Smokescreen wrote:THAT'S the problem?? T-Crotches? Seriously? There's this other small toy line that uses them...I think they're...what... Star Wars or something like that? Ya... I think they've had a little success through the years... :P

Yeah, it sucks compared to the crotches Joe figures have. Don't get me wrong. And Joe fans already threw their fits about T-Crotches and had that remedied. But, I do think these DC figures are a hell of a starting block... Decent sculpts, great concepts... Hopefully they can perfect the lower regions in future waves. Everything else looks damn good, imo.

Justin, were you there? Can you confirm that they can mesh with either RAH, new sculpt, or 25A Joe figures?


Unfortunately I only made it to the Hasbro stuff, didn't stick around for the Mattel stuff or any others, so I can't confirm anything there.

I won't debate that the general collecting populace at large doesn't have much of an issue with the t-crotch articulation, but Joe fans in particular often throw fits about it. I can assure you, if the Anniversary figures had them, there would be PLENTY of fits still to be had. ;)

Personally, I've been spoiled by Joe articulation over the years, and I cannot even consider owning other figures without ball-joint hips, which includes Star Wars or Indiana Jones... it's just funny to me that many Joe fans have different expectations and different levels of acceptance for Joe product and other product. No matter how nicely sculpted the new Joes are, if they were as poseable as the Indy figures, there would be an online firestorm. Yet, the Indy figures get lavished with praise?

Just one of the oddities of life... ;)

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Re: 3.75" DC Universe Infinite Heroes

Postby Smokescreen » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:40 am

General Hawk wrote:Unfortunately I only made it to the Hasbro stuff, didn't stick around for the Mattel stuff or any others, so I can't confirm anything there.

I won't debate that the general collecting populace at large doesn't have much of an issue with the t-crotch articulation, but Joe fans in particular often throw fits about it. I can assure you, if the Anniversary figures had them, there would be PLENTY of fits still to be had. ;)

Personally, I've been spoiled by Joe articulation over the years, and I cannot even consider owning other figures without ball-joint hips, which includes Star Wars or Indiana Jones... it's just funny to me that many Joe fans have different expectations and different levels of acceptance for Joe product and other product. No matter how nicely sculpted the new Joes are, if they were as poseable as the Indy figures, there would be an online firestorm. Yet, the Indy figures get lavished with praise?

Just one of the oddities of life... ;)

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K, be fair, now... Part of the reason everyone is lavishing all over the Indy figures is 1. They're freaking Indiana Jones figures. When's the last time Indiana Jones figures have been sold to the general public? FORFREAKINGEVER ago. So, there's a bit of that. ;) Second of all, yeah, they have the goofy Star Wars cuts and art., but they do look more or less, pretty damn good. And they can be used with Joe, so even more points for.

You made a question pop into my head... Does Hasbro's G.I. Joe division hold a patent for that kind of articulation, I wonder? You hardly see any other toy companies do it, for whatever reason. Just makes me wonder if they CAN'T have that type of art. due to a legal issue...

Still though... I'd take a T-Crotch over the Microman crotch art, if I can't have Joe art. At least they'll be able to stand without a footpeg. Well, maybe not Power Girl, but that's an issue of a different sort. ;)
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Re: 3.75" DC Universe Infinite Heroes

Postby General Hawk » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:48 am

Smokescreen wrote:K, be fair, now... Part of the reason everyone is lavishing all over the Indy figures is 1. They're freaking Indiana Jones figures. When's the last time Indiana Jones figures have been sold to the general public? FORFREAKINGEVER ago. So, there's a bit of that. ;) Second of all, yeah, they have the goofy Star Wars cuts and art., but they do look more or less, pretty damn good. And they can be used with Joe, so even more points for.

You made a question pop into my head... Does Hasbro's G.I. Joe division hold a patent for that kind of articulation, I wonder? You hardly see any other toy companies do it, for whatever reason. Just makes me wonder if they CAN'T have that type of art. due to a legal issue...

Still though... I'd take a T-Crotch over the Microman crotch art, if I can't have Joe art. At least they'll be able to stand without a footpeg. Well, maybe not Power Girl, but that's an issue of a different sort. ;)


Well, believe me, the Indiana Jones thing is killing me, because you're right, the figures look awesome...but that articulation just kills me. As far as the articulation style goes, I don't believe Hasbro can or does patent that specific articulation. I'm not sure other formats can use the T-Bar style, but that shouldn't stop other design teams from just using ball-joint hips. I suppose there must be reasoning for it... I wouldn't think the ball-joint style could be patented, but I'm no legal expert.

Don't get me wrong, there are a ton of impressive Star Wars figures, and the Indy figures are impressive, too. But as a picture taker and diorama guy, I need my figures to move.

I just hold out some hope that maybe we'll get a "super-poseable" Indiana Jones figure somewhere down the line...

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Re: 3.75" DC Universe Infinite Heroes

Postby Jmacq1 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:58 am

Even Star Wars' "super poseable" figures tend to still have T-Crotches. In fact, very, very few SW figures have ever been released with ball-jointed hips (the most recent Anakin/"Darth Vader" and Obi-Wan being among them).

I suspect Indiana Jones will continue that "tradition." After all, it's being licensed from the same company (Lucasfilm).

Anyway, I'll be curious to see if they try to port the hip articulation from the DC Universe Classics line to this. At first glance it looks like a T-Crotch, but there's actually another joint in the hip that gives the legs side-to-side motion. It's pretty nice looking aesthetically (IMHO) and gives a similar range of motion to a ball-joint. I just dunno if it'd be workable at 3.75" scale.

That and I don't like the mid-thigh swivels that DCU Classics uses. But still...I think people are excited by the possibility of 3.75" DCU figures more than anything else. The final verdict will of course be delivered upon receipt of the final product.

And yeah, not every line will be as articulated as Joe. Some people prefer aesthetics to poseability, and some lines strive for more of a blend of both (Star Wars most notably).
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Re: 3.75" DC Universe Infinite Heroes

Postby PrimeOp » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:02 pm

I could've sworn that they said those weren't the final product and were just mock-ups.

Even if they have T-crotches, well, at least everyone will be able to sit down. I'd be verbally fireboming these things if they'd have given them V-crotches which make most figures nearly useless. I'm just glad to see that the danged things are really on the way At the worst, we'll have some beautiful custom fodder.
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Re: 3.75" DC Universe Infinite Heroes

Postby smoke bellew » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:27 pm

I'll reserve judgement 'til I see the finished product. I will say though, that I've been waiting for this ever since I lost my Mego "Pocket Heroes" Batman to my 1st. grade teacher and her vile proclivity to confiscation.
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