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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Fox News on the GIJoe movie. Reply with quote

This has probably been posted in another thread but now that the film has its own forum, it will get its own topic.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296054,00.html

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from the article = "I find it outrageous that they'd want to drop everything American" from the character, said conservative blogger Warner Todd Huston, who wrote about the rumors this week on Newsbusters.org and his own blog. "That's nuts."

Retired Army Col. David W. Hunt, a FOX News military and terrorism analyst, called the scheme to make a whole new Joe "a shame."

"G.I. Joe is a U.S. guy," Hunt said. "What are we going to call it — Global Joe? International Joe? It's kind of stupid. It's ridiculous that they're doing that."


- Yeah. I thinnk this is the general sentiment. Hopefully Hollywood will get the idea before it produces a bomb.. that it will then blame on G.I. Joe instead of its own gay liberal politics. Then we will get no more G.I. Joe love...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the general sentiment from conservative bloggers and military (and ex-military) personnel.

Note that not too many people are "polling" the "new Joe" that may or may not end up on the big screen outside of focus groups that would by nature be opposed to such changes. They're fishing for the negative and more controversial statements.

Biased reporting at its' finest. Particularly when statements like "taking everything American away from the character" are being made when that's never been even rumored.

Adding/altering some global/international characters does not equal taking away all the American characters and elements.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jmacq1 wrote:
It's the general sentiment from conservative bloggers and military (and ex-military) personnel.


Actually NPR also ran a story about it which surprsingly shared the same thoughts as the conservative bloggers and ex-military talking heads. And as we all know, NPR is a fairly liberal entity. So there is disdain on both sides of the fence...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jmacq1 wrote:

Adding/altering some global/international characters does not equal taking away all the American characters and elements.


No... but changing the American Military personel into "global" characters does!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rockshield wrote:
Jmacq1 wrote:

Adding/altering some global/international characters does not equal taking away all the American characters and elements.

No... but changing the American Military personel into "global" characters does!!!

Well, only if you change all of them, and neither Hasbro or Paramount have even hinted at that being the case.

The article is absurd on its face. The subjects of their interviews have obviously not been apprised of the constantly changing rumors surrounding this project. They're confronted with a FOX News "journalist" saying, "They're making a G.I. Joe movie, G.I. Joe won't be American, and it's all because of liberal Hollywood! Tell us what you think!" I mean, this sentence is enough to dismiss the piece completely:

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But in the 1980s, the toy company Hasbro made G.I. Joe more of a superhero and added a host of other action figures, expanding the line to include characters that made up a team of international operatives.

Really? I don't remember that at all. In fact, there wasn't a character named G.I. Joe when I was growing up in the 1980s, at least not until Issue 86 of the Marvel Comics title in 1989, when Joseph Colton made an appearance.

I would love to see a film based on the work of Larry Hama, a story that doesn't drop the history and fundamental aspects of the characters. I don't like the idea of relocating and renaming, but I'm not going to get all political or nationalistic over a movie. Until there is a shooting script, there's no story, period. Even then, changes can be made during principal photography. I'll worry about changes to the source material when I see something official.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Compulsive Collector wrote:
Until there is a shooting script, there's no story, period. Even then, changes can be made during principal photography. I'll worry about changes to the source material when I see something official.


That's a point that seems to be missed in just about every thread I have read about this movie across all the forums

script ---> pitch ---> greenlight ---> preproduction

that is the traditional formula when a film is in its infancy, and there's not even a script yet for this movie.

I think there's way too many people jumping the gun on a movie that is not only in rumor stage , but isn't even guaranteed to be made yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're making the movie, official "greenlight" or not.

Or more accurately, the fact that the movie is getting made is well beyond "rumor" stage. It's all-but officially confirmed.

What's not past rumor stage is anything that'll actually be in the movie. So yeah, pretty much everyone (ourselves included) is jumping the gun on this "Un-American" stuff.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jmacq1 wrote:
It's all-but officially confirmed.


Which translates to "It's not officially confirmed"

There's plenty of movies that were on the fast track to be made only to be shelved or postponed. Remember James Cameron's Spiderman?

Until there is an official press release... it's not official.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty liberal with some liberal friends and on the other side there is also some worry that the GI Joe movie might not be American enough. The scene in the comic book where Roadblock tell the looter no one ever died for a typewriter is something just begging to be put up on the big screen. Plus it's not like GI Joe has ever been about conservative or liberal but about the sort of Americans we want to be when our goverment is doing things that don't seem to be the American Way.

Being Fox News though they did not bother to investigate that some changes have been made already and I'd place bets they did not even try to interview the director or writer to find their view on the early dropped scripts.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jmacq1 wrote:
They're making the movie, official "greenlight" or not.

Or more accurately, the fact that the movie is getting made is well beyond "rumor" stage. It's all-but officially confirmed.

That's just not how Hollywood works. In addition to Cameron's Spider-flick, there was Tim Burton's Superman project (which actually went into "official" pre-production stages, including set construction; Lorenzo di Bonaventura was with Warner Bros. at the time, and thus an executive producer), McG's Superman movie, Brett Ratner's Superman movie, McG's next Superman movie, and Wolfgang Petersen's Superman vs. Batman project (which got an "official" announcement, and everything). Warner Bros. hired David S. Goyer in 2005 to write and direct a film about the Flash, but that was cancelled in February of this year. Later that month, they announced that Shawn Levy had been hired to direct it, but nothing's happened since then. Chicago took two decades to be made. I could continue for a page and a half.

Lots of films made it a lot closer to seeing the light of day than this one has at this point, only to be shelved, sometimes permanently. Until there's a shooting script and a greenlight from Paramount, "they're making the movie" isn't a guarantee.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caravankidd wrote:
Being Fox News though they did not bother to investigate that some changes have been made already and I'd place bets they did not even try to interview the director or writer to find their view on the early dropped scripts.


Never let facts get in the way of a good attention-getting headline!

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In addition to Cameron's Spider-flick, there was Tim Burton's Superman project (which actually went into "official" pre-production stages, including set construction; Lorenzo di Bonaventura was with Warner Bros. at the time, and thus an executive producer), McG's Superman movie, Brett Ratner's Superman movie, McG's next Superman movie, and Wolfgang Petersen's Superman vs. Batman project (which got an "official" announcement, and everything). Warner Bros. hired David S. Goyer in 2005 to write and direct a film about the Flash, but that was cancelled in February of this year. Later that month, they announced that Shawn Levy had been hired to direct it, but nothing's happened since then. Chicago took two decades to be made. I could continue for a page and a half.


Seconded. Well, thirded counting Todd's post.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GI JOE = USA
COBRA = Terrorist bad guys

without this combination this movie is going to bomb.
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