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Ronnstein Sergeant
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only1 "Yes... Capt Grid-Iron... I was a fan."
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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YAY! _________________ JBL is hug!!! Vamo Candiens!
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spider24 Corporal
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This looks like its going to be a BLOCKBUSTER HIT!  |
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only1 "Yes... Capt Grid-Iron... I was a fan."
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when I saw the Simpsons, there was a trailer. I like Jason Lee as Dave... I loved the Chipmunks growing up... and the voice of Alvin sounds to be the same as the one from the 80's toon.
I expect it to be a lot better than Garfield... but that's a pretty low bar right there. _________________ JBL is hug!!! Vamo Candiens!
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Rockshield Fish-Slapping Candiean Goose
Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 1228 Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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The only problem is t hat I hold things from my childhood up on a pedestal and I have a fear of hollywood f'n it all up. Look what they did on the last Superman movie! The hulk was another heartbreaker. I don't wanna see Alvin as any different then what I hold in my childhod memory. The smurfs won't be the same if they turn Shrek-like.
The joes have me hoping, since my world revolved around the comic series, and if they worked a live action version off of a few of the books, that would be amazing. I am sure I will end up being unhappy with the choices for some of the characters, but the excitement of what COULD be, is enough to get me worked up. There is more of a chance for dissapointment then there was in the Transformers I think because 1. the heros are animated/cgi/computer enhanced and not actor-based and 2. There was the voice of Peter Cullen to make it feel "legit". I think the only way they could reproduce the validity that Cullen brings is to let Hama write the script, which I am POSITIVE wouldnt happen in a million years.
If this script (whenever it gets leaked) contradicts the "official" Joe world of Hama's.. I am pretty sure that I will scream bloody murder and avoid the picture. Thats probably not enough to make it a flop, however, and it will create a whole new realm of action figures, made of cheap plastic like the spiderman/pirates of the carribian figures, based on the actors who played the characters, and not the actual characters themselves.
I am hoping with both fingers and all toes crossed ... and yet preparring for a huge letdown. _________________ actively looking for: 1. Black Timber 2. Battlefield General Cobra Commander 3. Wet-Suit
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spider24 Corporal
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 79 Location: Petaluma,CA
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| My problem with this whole "re-creating" the 80's movies is that it lacks that "cheesy" quality that we all enjoyed. All of that CGI is taking the "fun"(IMO) of the movies. Who did not want to see Bumblebee transform into a VW BUG?! I think the majority of us did ( for the "cheese" factor) we all wanted to go back to our childhood and remember the goodtimes we had. I know I want my kids to appreciate my era of cartoons. There is going to be a influx of these"80's" movies because they know that 1) we are going to watch them (no matter how bad they are 2) we are going to buy the merchandise either for ourselves or our kids to recreate that ol' nostalgic feeling. |
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Neckbone Sergeant First Class
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| spider24 wrote: | | There is going to be a influx of these"80's" movies because they know that 1) we are going to watch them (no matter how bad they are 2) we are going to buy the merchandise either for ourselves or our kids to recreate that ol' nostalgic feeling. |
That's where they're and you are wrong. If something is bad, don't give into it. I love Spider-man. The first two movies sucked in my opinion, so I didn't go see the third one. I like Fantastic Four, but the first movie sucked, so I didn't go see the sequel. The Hulk looked bad, didn't go see it. Transformers didn't look appealing to me, didn't go see it. I like GI Joe but I didn't buy a Sigma Six figure.
Nostalgia is one thing, but supporting crap is another. Just because you're a fan of something doesn't mean you need to blindly follow along with whatever tripe they turn out. Support quality then the bar will be raised higher. Ultimately it's your dollar not your voice that decideds what happens next. |
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gi-joe collecter Corporal
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| spider24 wrote: |
This looks like its going to be a BLOCKBUSTER HIT!  |
ahhh hell like we need a movie withs beavers that sounds like that sucked the air out of a balloon in a movie thats just as bad as the cave man from the gico thing..... _________________ !!!!!!!!!!YOJOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Fyrefly Conflict Resolution Specialist
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 237 Location: Semi-Retired in Belize
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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More news. I have a "friend". And they're looking for extras and advisors.
Supposedly, they're looking at "Marky" Mark Wahlberg to play Duke. The story, as told by this Bonaventura dude, right now is being discussed as following Cobra Commander's rise to power. It will mainly focus on Duke and CC. Originally, Michael Bay was supposed to do the movie... but he asked for Transformers instead. That's all I've got at the moment. _________________ "Show Thine Enemies No Mercy."
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spider24 Corporal
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Neckbone wrote: | | spider24 wrote: | | There is going to be a influx of these"80's" movies because they know that 1) we are going to watch them (no matter how bad they are 2) we are going to buy the merchandise either for ourselves or our kids to recreate that ol' nostalgic feeling. |
That's where they're and you are wrong. If something is bad, don't give into it. I love Spider-man. The first two movies sucked in my opinion, so I didn't go see the third one. I like Fantastic Four, but the first movie sucked, so I didn't go see the sequel. The Hulk looked bad, didn't go see it. Transformers didn't look appealing to me, didn't go see it. I like GI Joe but I didn't buy a Sigma Six figure.
Nostalgia is one thing, but supporting crap is another. Just because you're a fan of something doesn't mean you need to blindly follow along with whatever tripe they turn out. Support quality then the bar will be raised higher. Ultimately it's your dollar not your voice that decideds what happens next. |
Unfortunately curiosity gets the better of some people and watch these remakes. I know I have watched some of these movies hoping they can do it better the the originals. Did I want it to be better than the original? hell yeah! Did it do it,NO. You have definately named a few disappointments. The only upside I see of this (IMO) is that it gets kids in the younger generation to relate a little bit more with the older generation.
ex My nephew(10) loves Sigma Six, his favorite character Storm Shadow. My favorite GI JOE (among many) is Storm Shadow. I showed him some old school GI JOE cartoons,Comics and toys and now hes hooked.
I try to support quality but as you stated "it's your dollar not your voice that decideds what happens next" I have realized that we are a small percantage who disagree with alot of these remakes. If we werent why keep making em? |
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Rockshield Fish-Slapping Candiean Goose
Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 1228 Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Fyrefly wrote: | More news. I have a "friend". And they're looking for extras and advisors.
Supposedly, they're looking at "Marky" Mark Wahlberg to play Duke. The story, as told by this Bonaventura dude, right now is being discussed as following Cobra Commander's rise to power. It will mainly focus on Duke and CC. Originally, Michael Bay was supposed to do the movie... but he asked for Transformers instead. That's all I've got at the moment. |
no clue as to the rest of what youre saying (just saying I hadnt heard it before) but Hasbro said publically that Bay went to Hasbro wanting to do G.I. Joe.. and then ended up getting TF's instead. I forgot why now.. I dont know if they considered that to be a promotion or a monkey's fist. _________________ actively looking for: 1. Black Timber 2. Battlefield General Cobra Commander 3. Wet-Suit
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Fyrefly Conflict Resolution Specialist
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 237 Location: Semi-Retired in Belize
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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According to Bay, he asked for Transformers after having been given permission to do GI Joe.
Personally, I believe that this particular movie will open a can of worms. Everyone's going to want to see their favorite character, everyone's going to have a hissy fit over who's playing who, and the people who are working on the script have acknowledged that they aren't going to please everyone because of the differences in both the comic and cartoon camps. They could stay away from many of the differences by just focusing on Joe versus Cobra... that, and young sergeants aren't supposed to be sleeping with their First Sergeant (Duke/Scarlett).
I hope they do it justice, but knowing Hasbro... they'll allow all manner of heinous acts to be committed. I doubt there's anyone in Hasbro that will pull a J.K. Rowling and support their product. Hopefully the US military will lend support as they did with Transformers - at least that way, some technical advisory will be given from subject matter experts and not from wanna-be know-nothings or so-called "canon experts". I've heard it said that they're backing away from the post-Vietnam stance of not supporting Hollywood, in hopes that it will allow better recruitment visibility. _________________ "Show Thine Enemies No Mercy."
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Jmacq1 Sergeant Major
Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 1889 Location: Arlington, VA
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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The US Military never really stopped "supporting Hollywood" they were just selective about which movies they supported (For instance Support - Top Gun Not Support - Major Payne ) Basically if the movie makes the military look "good" they're likely to support it to some degree or another.
But anyway, I agree that the film will likely be a hugely divisive thing among Joe fans. Besides, everyone knows Scarlett should be sleeping with Snake-Eyes, not Duke.
*Ducks for cover from the toon-fans*
But seriously, in typical Hollywood fashion, we'll get a "middle of the road" version between the comics and toons (assuming they use either for influences) and relationship foo will likely take a back seat.
That, or they'll cast a mega-babe in a sexy "Civilian-Made-Up-For-The-Movie" role for Duke to mack on.
Which reminds me...I suspect one of the hugely divisive issues will be the fact that they will almost certainly do one of two things:
1. Create a "brand new" Joe strictly for the movie, then kill him off. Possibly the preferable of the two options, since they'll avoid killing a Joe that people can scream about being "their favorite since they were kids."
2. Cast at least one obscure/lesser-used Joe strictly for the purpose of killing him off halfway through the movie ("Let's see, our Joe team is going to be Duke, Snake-Eyes, Scarlett, Stalker, Roadblock, Gung-Ho, Shipwreck, Flint, Lady Jaye, and Sure Fire....which one of these guys isn't making it to the closing credits?" ). |
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Fyrefly Conflict Resolution Specialist
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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From what I'm being told, Mark Wahlberg has already expressed interest in the role of Duke, and I'm also told that they're considering Ray Park (aka the white ninja) as Snake Eyes, since it's a non-speaking, strictly martial-arts role. Ray Park is better known as Darth Maul, and had some roles in other movies (X-Men as well).
Word on the street is, the movie isn't exactly going to be known as GI Joe, but rather "Action Man". GI Joe is a term that won't be known outside the US, meaning they're not going to get a lot of cash from overseas viewers with a name like GI Joe. The term "buddy movie" is being used, because it'll be a sort of team-up between Duke and Alex Mann, who's better known as Action Man across the pond. From what I understand, they're talking Scarlett, Snake Eyes, Duke, possibly Hawk, Cobra Commander, Destro and Heavy Duty. Yes. Yes I said Heavy Duty. Distressing news: they're going with Heavy Duty instead of Roadblock. Why, I don't know. Heavy Duty, the dude that had like six toy incarnations but didn't make any sort of splash until the relaunch of GI Joe a few years back. _________________ "Show Thine Enemies No Mercy."
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Rockshield Fish-Slapping Candiean Goose
Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 1228 Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Fyrefly wrote: | | Word on the street is, the movie isn't exactly going to be known as GI Joe, but rather "Action Man". GI Joe is a term that won't be known outside the US, meaning they're not going to get a lot of cash from overseas viewers with a name like GI Joe. The term "buddy movie" is being used, because it'll be a sort of team-up between Duke and Alex Mann, who's better known as Action Man across the pond. |
yeah.. thast the scoop we got months ago. A love triangle where Scarlet marries Alex instead of Duke... whereas Duke is the lover from the past, etc etc. no WAY this would make for a good G.I. Joe movie. Time for hollywood to stop worrying about what ppl overseas are gonna think.. lets make an AMERICAN movie for once. G.I. Joe is about patriotism and protecting the homeland... changing the name to Action Man would totally make it an anti-G.I. Joe movie in my book.
one more thing...
| Jmacq1 wrote: | | Besides, everyone knows Scarlett should be sleeping with Snake-Eyes, not Duke. |
AMEN BROTHER!!! If this scared fundamental part of the joe world is disturbed... I will put the curse of the evil eye on whomever is involved with its production. _________________ actively looking for: 1. Black Timber 2. Battlefield General Cobra Commander 3. Wet-Suit
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