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LittleE Sergeant First Class
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:52 am Post subject: Should the Movie be about... |
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Which era of GI Joe should the movie be about? _________________
I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts, there they are standing in a row, big ones small ones some as big as your head, give 'em a twist, a flick of the wrist, that's wut the show man said! |
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M6D Magnum6Delta.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Not sure if this has been posted anywhere or not but according to the information on IMDBPro the Source Material is listed as the comic book. |
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Jmacq1 Sergeant Major
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Doesn't that come from a statement made by a Hasbro rep before they actually hired their director and scriptwriter, though?
In other words, before we heard the inklings of the "Brussels G.I.J.O.E." pitch that Sommers supposedly made? Supposedly they've gotten away from Brussels, but I'd say the movie being based on the comics is just as much unsubstantiated rumor as everything else we've heard at this point. |
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M6D Magnum6Delta.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Just reporting what's listed on IMDBPro's G.I.Joe page (as nothing is listed on the regular site). |
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Caravankidd Staff Sergeant
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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The movie should be about........two hours.
Sorry couldn't resist. Got my hopes on the comic book being the source. The cartoons were fun and I've watched them plenty of times, but the story telling was just bigger in the comic books so I've got my hopes on the director being able to bring back the summer action film that is also filled with character and not just special effects. _________________ Minor deity, major fun. |
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Compulsive Collector Private
Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 25 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Jmacq1 wrote: | Doesn't that come from a statement made by a Hasbro rep before they actually hired their director and scriptwriter, though?
In other words, before we heard the inklings of the "Brussels G.I.J.O.E." pitch that Sommers supposedly made? |
I don't recall the Brussels concept ever being specifically referred to as Sommers' idea, but the comics origin statement was made by Hasbro's COO. At the time, he said they were working to develop a story using the comics as a source, that they did not yet have it, but that they were hoping to have it soon. If that's what they want, that's what they'll tell the writer and director to give them. Sommers, if he makes it to shooting, isn't going to have much creative control over the final product. |
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Jmacq1 Sergeant Major
Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 1889 Location: Arlington, VA
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Compulsive Collector wrote: | | Jmacq1 wrote: | Doesn't that come from a statement made by a Hasbro rep before they actually hired their director and scriptwriter, though?
In other words, before we heard the inklings of the "Brussels G.I.J.O.E." pitch that Sommers supposedly made? |
I don't recall the Brussels concept ever being specifically referred to as Sommers' idea, but the comics origin statement was made by Hasbro's COO. At the time, he said they were working to develop a story using the comics as a source, that they did not yet have it, but that they were hoping to have it soon. If that's what they want, that's what they'll tell the writer and director to give them. Sommers, if he makes it to shooting, isn't going to have much creative control over the final product. |
As I recall, Brussels was part of Sommers' "pitch" to the studio. And assuming he won't have much creative control is an awfully big assumption. |
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M6D Magnum6Delta.com
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:59 am Post subject: |
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| While Sommers will have a degree of creative control, he'll be low man on the totem poll when it comes to the final say. As producer, Di Bonaventura will have final say over Sommers and will make the decisions in the best interests of his company and Paramount. If he doesn't like Sommer's direction, he will change it. Also since the property is optioned and not a full sale of rights, and with Hasbro being Hasbro, I highly doubt they would enter into optioning the rights to Di Bonaventura's production company without some form of creative control in protecting their property. |
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desertrat Corporal
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:45 am Post subject: |
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They should leave those transformers out ofthe picture. _________________ Bring them back alive! From Iraq. |
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Tambo Private
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| The first 50 or so issues of the comic book......nothing more and nothing less. |
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mr. peasant Corporal
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:10 am Post subject: |
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I think you forgot one option, which is 'a completely new canon'. This is probably what we're going to get, and I must say that that's actually the right way to go. As much as we all liked the previous incarnations, they all aren't exactly perfectly suitable for the big screen.
Like Transformers, there should be a few similarities and nods to the various incarnations of G.I. Joe (e.g. the Snake-Eyes and Storm Shadow rivalry, etc) but will ultimately create its own continuity and universe separate from the other ones. |
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Compulsive Collector Private
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Jmacq1 wrote: | | As I recall, Brussels was part of Sommers' "pitch" to the studio. |
I've read several articles about the project, and none of them came close to suggesting this. Can you cite a source?
| Jmacq1 wrote: | | And assuming he won't have much creative control is an awfully big assumption. |
Not for someone familiar with the process. In fact, knowing what I know about studio films, especially when it's based on a property owned by a toy manufacturer, it's a given. |
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Caravankidd Staff Sergeant
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| mr. peasant wrote: | I think you forgot one option, which is 'a completely new canon'. This is probably what we're going to get, and I must say that that's actually the right way to go. As much as we all liked the previous incarnations, they all aren't exactly perfectly suitable for the big screen.
Like Transformers, there should be a few similarities and nods to the various incarnations of G.I. Joe (e.g. the Snake-Eyes and Storm Shadow rivalry, etc) but will ultimately create its own continuity and universe separate from the other ones. |
I think they do have the big task of writing the movie so that people who are new to GI Joe don't have a hard time getting up to speed. Sure we know far too much stuff about Joe and Cobra but some people haven't seen it for years which is why they keep confusing my Cobra trooper costume with Cobra Commander.
But totally new canon often has this feel of throwing the old fans out so they can appeal to the new people only.
Given the director and the sort of things Hasbro loves to do my guess is on something that is such a mix of old and new that's going to be hard to peg it as old canon or as new canon. A bit like how Sigma Six was both a continuation of A Real American Hero and not a continued part of it. Or how Devils Due is both a new chapter to the Marvel run, the cartoons and yet not all at the same time.
Until we get some info on a leaked script my guess is something that could be shoe horned into the various Joe-canons out there. _________________ Minor deity, major fun. |
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Jmacq1 Sergeant Major
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Compulsive Collector wrote: | | Jmacq1 wrote: | | As I recall, Brussels was part of Sommers' "pitch" to the studio. |
I've read several articles about the project, and none of them came close to suggesting this. Can you cite a source? |
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117970752.html?categoryid=13&cs=1
Eighth paragraph down:
"While some remember the character from its gung-ho fighting man '60s incarnation, he's evolved. G.I. Joe is now a Brussels-based outfit that stands for Global Integrated Joint Operating Entity, an international co-ed force of operatives who use hi-tech equipment to battle Cobra, an evil organization headed by a double-crossing Scottish arms dealer. The property is closer in tone to "X-Men" and James Bond than a war film."
The article is of course Sommers being announced as the director, and describes the studio loving the concept he pitched to them. I'd say that's a pretty direct link.
| Compulsive Collector wrote: | | Jmacq1 wrote: | | And assuming he won't have much creative control is an awfully big assumption. |
Not for someone familiar with the process. In fact, knowing what I know about studio films, especially when it's based on a property owned by a toy manufacturer, it's a given. |
So Michael Bay had little or no creative input on "Transformers?"
Could've fooled me. He certainly seemed quite happy to own up to just about every change that was made. |
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M6D Magnum6Delta.com
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| What does "How Michael Bay directed Transformers" have to do with "How Steven Sommers may direct GIJoe?" |
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